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Marriage and Uncle Sam?

Eliminating marriage as a legal institution to save marriage as a holy institution
by Michael Christian

 
A ravenous clamor arises from every corner of the land. It seeks to claim; it seeks to garner; it seeks to devour. For what is this clamorous crowd so exceedingly hungry? For nothing less than the privileges granted to married couples. The homosexual community wails for its deprived members who cannot, through what they claim to be a grievous oversight of the law, obtain spousal benefits given to almost every heterosexual spouse in America. They claim that they and their partners must be recognized as a married couple to alleviate what they term to be a case of wholesale discrimination. But whether the individuals who desire this distinction realize or not, this issue is not about civil rights or discrimination at all. It is about the secular world's attack on God and all His gifts.
Some of the partisans involved in this issue care nothing for the religious aspects of the debate. They only want the legal recognition which will bring them health and death benefits given to married couples and sometimes to cohabital heterosexual couples. Others, however, have a more nefarious reason for backing the position that homosexuals, "in a committed relationship," deserve the same rights as married couples. This segment seeks nothing less than the erosion of moral principles and a total acceptance of any personal lifestyle, no matter how deviant. At this point, some will, no doubt, claim that I am homophobic, or that I hate homosexuals. Neither is true. I do not fear anyone, and I do not hate those who practice homosexuality. I believe that they deserve and were given the same rights and the same responsibilities as everyone else. What is involved here is not a distinction between heterosexual and homosexual, but a mistaken idea of entitlement.
Firstly, marriage was never intended to be a legal institution. God ordained marriage as His gift to His creation, because it is the only healthy way to have such an extremely intimate relationship between two people, and because it was a model of how our relationship with Him is supposed to be. We are to be faithful to Him and not lust after other gods. He protects us and provides for our every need. Marriage is supposed to follow this pattern, and when God joined Adam and Eve in marriage, He did not ask either of them to sign a piece of paper.
We have foolishly allowed the holy institution of marriage to become defiled by the hand of man. The licensing of marriages is tantamount to saying that what men say about the union of two people is more important that what God says about it. When most marriages are performed in America, the minister (of whatever denomination; priest, pastor, etc.) says, "By the power vested in me by the State of" blank... but where did the State get the power to vest anyone with the power to join people together in the bonds of marriage? That power comes from, and is indeed limited to, God. Undoubtedly, it is the decrease of the recognition of God as the sanctifier of marriages and the increase of the idea of government in the same role that has led to today's atmosphere of licentiousness.
One argument which has been made on both sides of the issue of the issuance of marriage licenses is that the government has no place in deciding moral issues. I quite agree, and I propose that this need not be a moral issue. The waters of this issue have for far too long been clouded by the mention of religion and morals, to the point that the real issue of what rights a couple really has have been lost. Perhaps, in order to clear these muddied waters, the community of faith should complete in understanding and Truth what the secular community began in ignorance and deception. Perhaps we should separate the legal institution from the religious one altogether. Perhaps then, we would be able to see that this issue is really about false entitlement.
In order to clear away the fictions that denying benefits is about morality and that licensing homosexual couples is about marriage, let us turn to the realm of science fiction, which has sometimes said truths the intellectual community has been too afraid to admit. Many stories involve or center around the idea of contract marriage. While I disapprove of this term, that is what it is called. Since this is inaccurate, let me immediately substitute another term: domestic contract. A domestic contract states that two people will live together and share some or all of their material goods. It may include such things as might be included in a prenuptial agreement, as division of property in the event of a separation. This would be a legal contract between two parties, and its significance would begin and end there. It would involve two persons of the age for entering into legal contracts. Some term would be devised for this partnership... perhaps they could be called a merged corporation. I say this with tongue in cheek, but I think it is appropriate. It would be entirely a legal matter, and it would not involve any ramifications of morality or religion that would not already be involved with any other couple living together outside the covenant relationship of marriage.
Perhaps you are saying to yourself, "Michael, you've blown a gasket! What's the difference?"
I'll tell you.
Marriage is a covenant relationship instituted by God. It involves two persons, a man and a woman, and a solemn and holy vow to be faithful to each other until God should separate them by death. Anything less is not a marriage. This taking of vows does not require any signatures or government permissions. The minister should say, "In the name of God (or Jesus Christ), I now pronounce you..." for there is no government authority higher than the authority of God. He instituted the practice of marriage, and He should be the source of all such unions.
With the holy vows of marriage separated from the contractual relationship recognized by the law completely separated, all that will remain is the false idea of entitlement under which many people in America labor. Spouses should not be set apart, or to be more accurate, a person's beneficiary should not be limited to his or her spouse. An unmarried person, for example, works in much the same capacity as a married person, and should therefore be given equal treatment, but having no spouse, that person should be able to select any beneficiary he or she chooses; A friend, a relative, or even a special math teacher from the fourth grade. The decision of whether or not to offer benefits should be left to the individual businesses, and the decision of a beneficiary should be left to the individual employees. Thus any moral questions or qualms would rest solely on the businesses, where they belong, and not on government, where they do not.
But some will claim that health and death benefits should be rights. They are not, and they should not be. A person's health care should be a one's own affair and of one's own providing. If a person cannot provide care for self and family, charity should help. That is how God said the church should operate; tend to the sick, the imprisoned, and the needy. All of this is interconnected. Over the years, workers have traded their wages for benefits, so that if an employer chose not to provide insurance benefits, that employer could pay the workers more, enough to provide for their own insurance, and also enough to give more to those in need.
Both sides should see the value in this proposal. Separating the contractual relationship from the spiritual one and giving all people equal treatment will serve the nation better than trying to keep the issue cloudy and trying to destroy the holy institution of marriage, and all sides can be happy. Those who cling to morality will be free to keep thinking as they do without a threat to their beloved Matrimony, while those who cling to commitment regardless of stripe will be free to collect their rewards without a threat of resistance to their health and death benefits. Both sides can get what they claim to want without sacrificing principles. Those with destructive motivations will not like this plan; those bent on disharmony and partisan fighting will not want this accepted; but perhaps those who only want what they hold precious to be accepted or preserved can revel in its beauty. And those who can be happy can live happily ever after.
December 11, 2001



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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 08:18 pm UTC (link)
While the essay has interesting points, some of which I agree with, I feel that our society is not currently set up in such a way that it is possible for a person to provide one's own health/death benefits.

Yes, in an ideal structure, companies would pay more to workers so that they could seek out their own benefits; but in today's "the bottom line is all that counts" marketplace, I can see many, many business owners rubbing their hands and saying, "Oh, boy...you mean, I get to decide if there are benefits, and how much to pay and which beneficiaries to allow? Great! Then no benefits, minimum wage, and no beneficiaries for you!"

In short, this scheme only is workable in a society that is already more interested in providing for each other than in providing for self, and that is not the world that you and I live in today.

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[info]felkor
2004-02-26 09:34 pm UTC (link)
"In short, this scheme only is workable in a society that is already more interested in providing for each other than in providing for self, and that is not the world that you and I live in today. "

This is why capitalism works and communism doesn't.
Capitalism builds on selfishness, communism builds on community and selflessness. It's pretty clear which is easier to find.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 09:43 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't say communism is built on community and selflessness. Communism is built on deception, entitlement, and seizure.

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[info]felkor
2004-02-26 09:48 pm UTC (link)
That's what communism becomes, because of what I just said before.

In history, communism has very often started from the people overthrowing their government because they see all those things you just mentioned and want to get rid of them.

Communism is just -very- easily corruptable, and the principles that it's based on fall away very quickly, and then it's not really even Communism anymore but that's what everyone still calls it.

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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I see that I misunderstood the wording of your original post, and due to computer glitches was not able to read your further comments before I had posted my own. It seems that we are in closer agreement than I had thought.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Very true.

The reason it doesn't work is one of two things: It's compulsory, and/or it makes no connection between input and output.

Some of the disciples mentioned in the New Testament had a voluntary sharing of work and resources, and it worked well.

Co-operative companies exist today, and membership in them is voluntary (and sometimes contains some link between input and return), and that works well.

But when people make communism their form of government, it is compulsory and usually makes no link between resources/labor contributed and services/goods returned.

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[info]felkor
2004-02-26 10:51 pm UTC (link)
I was actually thinking of mentioning the disciples' "communism".

I'm not defending communism... I'm clearly saying it doesn't work.

I'm just saying that the base principals of it are good-natured, if a little naive.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 11:05 pm UTC (link)
People often quote that without making the proper distinction between that and Communism the governmental form and philosophy. Communism doesn't allow for voluntary inclusion or exclusion.

I agree.

They are good intentions, yes. However, I wouldn't say a little naive. I'd say totally naive. :)

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[info]felkor
2004-02-26 11:36 pm UTC (link)
LOL, you just have to find -something- to disagree with, even when you agree. :-)

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-27 05:53 am UTC (link)
hehehe... I don't call the journal Nonsense and Nuance for nothing, hehe... :)
I'm truly not trying to be contentious. I just want to articulate my position as clearly as possible. I have a neurosis toward being misunderstood, and this sometimes leads me to be a bit... tenacious ...with ideas.

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[info]felkor
2004-02-26 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Are there any forms of government where there is voluntary inclusion or exclusion? I don't think so, at least not completely. (Laws for example, don't seem to allow for much disagreement.)

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-27 05:50 am UTC (link)
There are none. That is why communism is not a valid form of government. :)

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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 09:48 pm UTC (link)
I cannot completely agree. If you are speaking of the pure theory of communism versus capitalism, I tend to agree, although I'll quibble on details. On paper, communism ought to work splendidly. The problem comes when it is actually put into use. Humans are corrupt, by and large.

I find that, throughout human history, communism has never seemed to result in a happy populace where all are equal and all participate for the common good; rather, it has always morphed into a system where the common populace is exploited and miserable, and those in charge are wealthy, corrupt, and cruel.

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[info]felkor
2004-02-26 09:50 pm UTC (link)
You say you cannot completely agree, but you really just said what I meant. So maybe my wording was bad. :)

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:19 pm UTC (link)
It is not human corruption that makes communism fail. Communism contains no incentives for those who do the work.

Also, communism rests on a faulty assumption: Equality in material goods or situation will bring some benefit to the collective or the individual. This simply is not true. While some people gain good feelings from having things, others don't care about things.

The common good cannot be achieved through communism. Even in its purest form, it is a flawed plan. There are many things it denies which cannot be denied.

Even if those in charge are poor, pure, and kind, the system doesn't work.

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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 10:27 pm UTC (link)
The main flaw in it, or in any government known to man, is that there is no real incentive, period. All forms of human government equate things with happiness, and that has never worked and will never work. The only flawless form of government is Godly government, and so far that's the one no one wants to try...

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:56 pm UTC (link)
I disagree. In a form of government that allows capitalism, the individual provides the incentive. Because under capitalism, the one who wants many possessions works hard and attains them by his labor, and he gains some measure of happiness. The one who values art or some non-material thing works enough to live and is also happy. Capitlaism allows the individual to seek individual goals, and in reaching those goals, find contentment.

Communism and other State-intensive systems of economics do not allow the individual the choices that lead to a stable economy.

The current economy in the united States cannot be used as an example in this discussion, sadly, because it is no longer either a free market, nor is it under enough control to qualify as anything else, really.

I agree with you about the governments, to a point. My belief is that the best earthly government is one based on equal laws and equal rights for all. The States began headed toward this, but the process has been diverted in the ensuing years.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 09:40 pm UTC (link)
I feel that our society is not currently set up in such a way that it is possible for a person to provide one's own health/death benefits.
While this is largely true, it is (still) possible to get independent insurance, or even to simply save one's own money for eventual needs.

I can see many, many business owners rubbing their hands and saying, "Oh, boy...you mean, I get to decide if there are benefits, and how much to pay and which beneficiaries to allow? Great! Then no benefits, minimum wage, and no beneficiaries for you!"
No, no. That's not the idea. The point was that today's and yesterday's workers have given up higher wages in order to receive company benefits, which used to be more attractive than individual benefits. But the insurance industry has changed. Employees find themselves in sticky situations (as in the movie John Q) because the company has changed their health plans. The point is not that employers get to decide BOTH benefits AND wages but that the employers get to decide benefits OR higher wages. They could be forced one way or the other by employee demands, or they could offer employees the choice between a higher wage and a comprehensive benefits package. The power would ultimately rest with the employees, which is where it should be.

Employees need to stand up and say, "You're not managing benefits properly, so here's what you can do with your benefits. Now, give me higher wages instead of these insulting benefits."

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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 09:44 pm UTC (link)
it is (still) possible to get independent insurance, or even to simply save one's own money for eventual needs

It's possible to get independent insurance, but the cost is extremely high. Company benefits, especially for families, is still often better than seeking independent coverage.

The point is not that employers get to decide BOTH benefits AND wages but that the employers get to decide benefits OR higher wages. They could be forced one way or the other by employee demands, or they could offer employees the choice between a higher wage and a comprehensive benefits package. The power would ultimately rest with the employees, which is where it should be.

I see that that is the idea and the point of the essay, but I respectfully disagree that it would be played out that way in the forum of real businesses. Caring about the employee is not high on most business agendas.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:11 pm UTC (link)
It's possible to get independent insurance, but the cost is extremely high. Company benefits, especially for families, is still often better than seeking independent coverage.
...assuming the coverage is comparable, or even adequate.

Caring about the employee is not high on most business agendas.
True, but that does not have to continue. The longer employees refuse to ask to better treatment, the worse the treatment will get. Anyway, one has to carefully watch the company's benefits, for they may suddenly become inadequate.

People don't take responsibility for their own upkeep... that, not perceived corporate greed, is the real problem.

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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 10:23 pm UTC (link)
I partially agree and partially disagree with your last statement. There is fault, I think, on both sides of the equation. I suppose my main thinking is that, yes, if there were a mass uprising, and if there were enough employees to demand a change, then the movement might work. But I have difficulty imagining that there would be a big enough group of people to speak out and really effect a change...

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:59 pm UTC (link)
That reasoning is why it doesn't happen.

Instead of waiting for a group to build momentum, we must individually take up the fight. Eventually, as companies encounter individuals who demand what is right, there will be enough that momentum will be gained and companies will change.

We cannot say, "Change is good; you go first."
We must work for change, though no one else follow. How often in history has a great movement started because one man or one woman stood in the gap and said, "Though no one join me, I will stand for this."
A single match lit can set an entire acre ablaze, but a match which remains unlit waiting for more matches to join it will never set anything ablaze.

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[info]moredetails
2004-02-26 09:16 pm UTC (link)
I never understand this userpic of yours.. what is that thing flying from the back of the man's head?

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[info]miraclelove
2004-02-26 09:23 pm UTC (link)
I'm guessing it's a ponytail... or a bandana around his neck ... or a rabbit's foot... possibly a small squirrel is sitting on his opposite shoulder. anyway... it's fun to speculate

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[info]moredetails
2004-02-26 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Please do not say it's a ponytail. haha.

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[info]miraclelove
2004-02-26 09:28 pm UTC (link)
*snicker*

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 09:47 pm UTC (link)
It is a ponytail. If you are offering your services as an artist, I will listen to criticism. Pascal is very proud of his ponytail, and you don't want to make him angry.

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[info]moredetails
2004-02-26 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Who is Pascal?

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Pascal is the character in the icon. See http://members.fortunecity.com/adiqss/a-003-i.png for Pascal in action.

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[info]moredetails
2004-02-26 10:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh.. well I am not afraid of fictional characters, so I'm fine with saying that I find male ponytails (especially tiny ones like that) very unattractive. :P

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 11:03 pm UTC (link)
Fear Pascal the Invincible. :)

You're welcome to your opinion. I thought you were impuning my art.

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[info]miraclelove
2004-02-26 11:41 pm UTC (link)
I like ponytails. :)

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-27 05:55 am UTC (link)
:) hehehe...
This is interesting. I post an essay on marriage, and we talk about communism, hair fashions, and fiction. hehehe I wonder what will happen if I post an essay about... No, maybe I'd better not. ;)

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[info]krikketgirl
2004-02-26 09:55 pm UTC (link)
I am a non-programmer, but I have a favorite programming book (it's my husband's). Just something about the title "Oh! Pascal!" cracks me up every time I see it...

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-26 10:03 pm UTC (link)
hehe

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[info]sp00f
2004-02-27 05:37 am UTC (link)
I've been thinking along these lines lately (haven't had the time to articulate it very well). I think I agree with pretty much everything in the article as I understand it. The reasoning Michael Christian expresses is exactly why I struggle to understand the necessity for amending our United States Constitution for the sake of marriage.

I'd like to post this in my journal.. if you don't mind!

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-27 05:50 am UTC (link)
I would prefer that you link to it rather than post a copy. One of the reasons being that I would very much like to see the comments it generates. I thank you for your interest. :)

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[info]vidthekid
2004-02-27 02:54 pm UTC (link)
I found this from a link in a comment posted on my own LJ where this was presented as a "fourth side" to the marriage debate, where the first three sides were (basically) the people fundamentally against homosexuality in general on religious grounds, the people working for equal rights, and the gays who have become disenchanted with marriage in general. However, this "fourth" viewpoint is often shared by the second and third groups I have mentioned. Proper execution of the ideals presented here, as I understand it, would mean that marriage itself carries no governmental recognition. If a couple wants recognition by God, they can get married, and the government stays out of it. If a couple wants recognition by the goverment and the various benefits and responsibilities that today's society associates with marriage, then that couple should get what is most often called a "civil union," even if they are a heterosexual couple. And there is no reason a couple can't get both a marriage from the church and a civil union from the government. Actually, I like this picture. Unfortunately, it doesn't (in my opinion) have any greater chance of becoming reality than the idea of government-recognized marriages for same-sex couples. The reason is because, for this "separation" ideal to become reality, all of our conservative politicians will be forced to give up control over other people's personal lives. Obviously this control is important to them, or we wouldn't be having this big debate in the first place.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-27 06:50 pm UTC (link)
all of our conservative politicians will be forced to give up control over other people's personal lives.
Or perhaps the Liberal politicians would be forced to give up control over other people's personal lives, in particular their agenda to control the minds of those who disagree with them.

I don't believe the majority of conservative politicians who oppose same-sex unions do so on political grounds. Rather, they do it on philosophical grounds. Therefore, a plan which does not assault a precious tenet of their philosophy will be infinitely more likely to garner their support than one that blatantly does. If you feel this plan is a good one, get behind it. Write your representatives.

I don't share your feeling that this plan is no more likely to be adopted than the one currently being tried.

I think that this plan will appeal to almost every camp involved... except the side that will accept nothing less that total acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle as "normal, right, proper, and descent". And that's really about people's minds, not about truth or justice.

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[info]sp00f
2004-02-27 11:21 pm UTC (link)
Vid, I'm placing my reply to you here since for some reason I couldn't reply directly to your comment. Whether or not this is a fourth view is not that important. In my case, (as is [info]skreyolas, I believe) what counts is that even though I'm clearly not gay, and that I believe homosexuality is morally wrong, this is a standard I hold for myself, and for no one else.

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[info]skreyola
2004-02-28 01:39 am UTC (link)
What counts, for me, is that the government issue isn't inexorably tied to the moral one, and that tying the two makes (/continues?) a bad precedent in government control over religion.

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[info]sp00f
2004-02-28 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Agreed.

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